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  My First Post

  by today in

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  i've been visiting this forum everyday, reading and waiting patiently for approval to post.

  i've never been a jw.

  my husband and daughter are.

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  Justitia Themis

  Dear Today:

  I am so sorry to hear your story. As for your husband, he is treating you with disdain. He is showing contempt towards you in your relationship with him.

  An excellent book to help you navigate through what must be incredibly muddled feelings is Why Marriages Succeed Or Fail by John Gottman, Ph.D. He does incredible research into relationships at the University of Washington-Seattle.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gottman

  Part of Gottman's theory states that there are four major emotional reactions that are destructive to a marriage: defensiveness, stonewalling, criticism, and contempt. Among these four, Gottman considers contempt the most important of them all. [ 7 ]
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  Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?

  by lepermessiah in

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  my family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .

  the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .

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  Treaty of Westphalia, which in effect broke the power of the Roman Catholic Church's ability to appoint emperors.

  It's all one unbroken chain of events.

  YES Snowbird! And now, take THAT information and apply it to the many comments the society makes about how we are in a time of unprecented warfare! Really? If this is soooo bad, just when would they have like to have lived?!
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  Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?

  by lepermessiah in

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  my family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .

  the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .

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  But Europe had been going through tumultous times for decades which culminated in The Great War.

  What JWs hate to admit is that since the Peace of Westphalia ended the religious wars and codified the concept of the nation-state, Europe almost seemed to have more times of war than of peace from 1648 to 1914. In fact, they are now in what many are terming a Pax Europea.
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  Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?

  by lepermessiah in

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  my family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .

  the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .

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  Balkan Wars led into the conflict known as World War I.

  Yep...explained in detail in most college level history books...right before they talk about the beginning of WW1 in 1914. :)
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  Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?

  by lepermessiah in

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  my family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .

  the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .

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  Justitia Themis

  I had a professor in college who insisted that the World War I and World War II were not separate wars but one continuous war with a prolonged cease fire. It's pointless to argue about when the conflict we now refer to as "World War I" actually began. There is no right or wrong answer. There might be a consensus among historians, but no "true" date you can discover.

  I think the key point of your statement is that you had "a" professor in college who argued for one continuous war. But, did he argue for that, or did he/she say that one can make an argument that it was one continuous war. The distinction is critical.

  And consensus IS important, because it allows us to stipulate to a fact, which then enables us to move forward with other conclusions. For example, if you are speaking with a JW and start arguing Titus' 1912 date, you will certainly acheive nothing, because they will simply dismiss your argument as not based in any historical reality.
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  Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .

  the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .

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  Justitia Themis

  JT, forget it!

  Who are you, BTW?

  Are you Jehovah's Witness?

  It didn't think you could provide the information, because you are NOT a historian, except in your own head! And who the h#ll are you?! Are you off your medication Titus?
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  A terrible situation, I need all the help I can get

  by lola28 in

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  i dont know if ive posted this before but here it goes.

  my sisters step dad has a nice who well call roxy for now, ive known this kid since she was two and she and my sister grew up together.

  roxys mom is a walking disaster; she has five kids all by different fathers (has had at least two abortions), has never worked a day in her life and im pretty sure she does drugs, and probably sells them too, however i cant prove it.

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  we normally have the babies three or four days a week (she’ll drop them off and then leave), she often calls my mom to say she has no money, no food for Nate (he’s eating solid food now) and no money to do laundry and yet she’s allowed to keep these kids!

  This is going to sound incredibly callous, and I apologize in advance...but your family must stop enabling her. Quit giving her money or taking care of her kids for her. Allow her to sink, and when she does, perhaps you can gain custody of the children.
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  Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .

  the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .

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  JT, I am a historian. I know history of this part of the world better than any "respected historian" in United States. I don't want to debate about that.

  Then by all means, Titus, regale us with your knowledge. Post the links to some of your scholarly, published works and/or books. I would LOVE to read them. :)

  And, please drop the whole "American/United States" thing. Most historians world wide use 1914.
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  Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .

  the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .

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  Justitia Themis

  JT, you don't know what are you talking about. Research that better. There are documents which can prove that it began in 1912.

  Titus: I believe the onus is on YOU to prove YOUR assertion. :)

  Why don't YOU present documentation from a respected historian, since YOU are asserting a date that is not in agreement with the majority of historians.
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  Did the WT totally "luck out" with World War I starting in 1914?

  by lepermessiah in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my family is still fixated on the 1914 date, simply because world war i started that year.. i told them i will agree it is a significant year in world history, but that the 1914 date as presented by jw's is based on lies and charlatanry.. i said "i think the wt really lucked out with 1914 with wwi starting that year - it keeps most jw's stuck on that date" .

  the standard answer is "well, that was the year everything went haywire"...... let the circular reasoning continue .

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  Justitia Themis

  The World War actually began in 1912

  Historians agree that WW1 "officially" began in 1914.